Lesson 179
Turn
to page 47 we’ll go on where we left off last time. Remember we are dealing with the giving of the life, the human
life through the eternal life that comes from the Lord Jesus Christ. We went over the life of Christ through the
doctrine of kenosis and impeccability, and we made the two points that kenosis
is just the doctrine of Philippians, and impeccability is the fact of the
sinlessness of Jesus Christ. Then we
went on to say that in our events that we’ve been working on, we’ve been
talking about the fact that Christ ascended, so we have the ascension and the
ascension of Jesus places Him at the Father’s right hand, which is the first
time in history that a member of the human race has occupied and been able to
sit at the right hand of the Father because Jesus Christ was fully qualified to
ascend to this position. We call that
the ascension and session.
The
next event that we looked at is Pentecost, because Pentecost followed that, and
when Jesus Christ went to the Father’s right hand, it says, “Therefore, having
been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the
promise which is the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see
and hear,” Acts 2:33. So He’s poured
this out, which is the coming of the Holy Spirit to earth. The Holy Spirit is omniscient, so let’s
think about something here right away and go back to the basic basics. God is sovereign, God is righteous, God is
just, God is loving, He is omniscient, He is omnipresent, He is omnipotent,
immutable and eternal, and a number of other attributes. But the point is that if God is omnipresent,
and the Holy Spirit is God, in what sense then did He come to earth? He came to earth in the sense that His
primary site of operations is located on earth in a way it wasn’t before
Pentecost.
Maybe
you could make an analogy of imagining a very powerful man in a corporation,
the owner, the CEO or something, it’s private, it’s not a public corporation,
it’s a private firm and he owns it all.
You could say his ownership is on every desk, every room, the parking
lot, the building. But he has his desk
area where he does his work, and that’s his office. In the same way the Holy Spirit who is omnipresent, who is
everywhere, always was everywhere, always was on earth, moves His desk, so to
speak, or His center of operations to the earth. That’s what goes on here at Pentecost.
We’ve
been working with this and out of this act comes at least, we said four things,
actually I’ve enlarged it so that if you look on page 46, “Now we will look at
four doctrines about our relationship to Jesus Christ through the
post-Pentecostal work of the Holy Spirit.”
It should be six; we’re going to go through six doctrines. I’m doing that because it’s really necessary
to see the work that the Holy Spirit does so we don’t get caught up in
counterfeit things that may be popular but aren’t really justified in the Word
of God. So that’s why we’re going
through the work of the Holy Spirit.
When we get into the next chapter and we deal with the next event which
is the separation of the Church from Israel, we’re going to deal with six
things that Jesus Christ does and we’re going to deal with six things that the
Father does. When we get done we’ll
have eighteen different things that describe our status as believers in this
dispensation. So we have eighteen
different things, and when it says “count your blessings one by one,” now at
least you can count to eighteen, because we’ll go through these. All of them
are expounded in Scripture. There are many more, this is just a sampling, but
at least it gives you something to go back to.
The
way to remember this is for now, we’re just going to deal with four, and the
easy thing to do is remember RIBS, the first letter, R stands for
regeneration. On page 46 that’s the
doctrine, regeneration. What does it mean?
It means the life that is given, it means that Jesus Christ regenerates
the person at the point of belief, and this regeneration… here’s the person and
before they become a Christian we have the flesh, we have the sin nature, we
can tie those two together, we have a body that’s cursed, and we have a spirit
that is dead. It doesn’t mean it
doesn’t exist, but it means that it just doesn’t function the right way. At the point of regeneration what happens is
that in a miraculous way, the Holy Spirit recreates the human spirit, in some
form or fashion. So the image in your
mind that you want to have for regeneration, the image, is Gen. 1, it’s
creation. Just like God made the light
shine in darkness there on the first day, if you can think of that imagery it
will help you visualize what regeneration is.
Regeneration
is remarkable in a number of respects in that it gives a quality of life; it’s
something that depends upon Genesis 1 kinds.
Remember when we were talking about Gen. 1, He made everything to
reproduce after its kind, and we said this is not an optional interpretation,
because if you wind up not affirming solidly that when God created He created
this, He created this, He created this, and not something that transitions and
mooches around, like in the theory of evolution where you have that
transmutation of the species. In the
New Testament there are two species in the human race: two, not one. Spiritually there are those in Adam and then
there are those in the Second Adam, so Adam one and Adam two. No one can be part of Adam two unless they’re
regenerate. The regeneration is the recreation of the human spirit utilizing in
some connection the life of Jesus Christ.
So it’s a linkage that happens here and it couldn’t have happened until
Jesus Christ finished His earthly ministry, ascended and seated at the Father’s
right hand, and then this begins regeneration.
The
life that is given at the point of regeneration, if it’s Christ’ life, then
it’s impeccable. So that’s why we have
these strange passages in the Bible, and this class is not a class in exegesis,
but on page 48 that’s what I’ve been trying to deal with 1 John 3, whether it’s
Romans 7, whether it’s Gal. 2:20, all those passages are very, very difficult
verses to handle because it’s easy to infer that what they’re saying is
perfectionism and that’s not what’s being taught. What’s being taught is that the regenerate nature comes from
Jesus, and the regenerate nature is sinless, sinlessly perfect. What other conclusion could we come to? That
the eternal life of Jesus that is recreated in our souls is sinful? That’s why you can’t just kiss off these
verses, they are there, they demand study and they demand explanation.
In
the middle of page 48 I have a quote from Professor Hodges, who for many years
taught New Testament Greek at Dallas Seminary.
I think this is a very good comment.
Follow with me and we’ll go through this one more time. He’s talking about Rom. 7 because Rom. 7 is
parallel to 1 John 3. In Rom. 7
remember Paul says that “it is no longer I that sins, but sin that dwells in
me.” That’s a very difficult verse to
handle, frankly, if you think about it.
I don’t sin, but it’s sin that dwells in me. See, there’s a complexity
to the human soul that we probably don’t fully appreciate. And passages like this stress this nature of
the soul. So Hodges points out,
(quote):
“Here
the Apostle achieves a self-perspective” and I think that’s the easiest way of
handling this, it is a perspective, a way of looking. He “achieves a self-perspective in which he can at once admit
that he sins and yet still say that ‘it is no longer I that do it.’ His true self (‘I myself,’ verse 25) serves
God’s law, even while he confesses that ‘with the flesh’ he serves the law of
sin.” See, there’s a bifurcation inside
of him. The next paragraph is very
important for later on. This is a good
insight. “It is of great importance
that this form of self-analysis precedes,” precedes,
“precedes the solution to his problem that is given in Romans 8.” This is the
important sentence. “To view sin as
intrinsically foreign to what we are as regenerate people in Christ is to take
the first step toward spiritual victory over it.” That it is now foreign to us by virtue of regeneration.
In
other words, because the human spirit has been created, because at the moment
we trust in Christ we are in Adam two, transferred from Adam one to Adam two,
that means now with this regenerate nature the flesh doesn’t belong to
that. It’s to be distinguished, it’s
not part of the core of our being any longer; not because we’ve done anything,
it’s only because Jesus Christ has created anew this human spirit. It’s also something that’s done, not only is
there two species here, but it’s done instantaneously. We said the imagery of Genesis 1, in the
Genesis 1 how long does it take God to speak the universe into existence. Psalm 33 tells us, He spoke and it stood
fast. So it’s an instantaneous thing
that happens. Now there may be months,
years, of the Holy Spirit working in our hearts to bring us to that point when
we trust in Christ. But at the moment
that regeneration occurs, it’s a split second and it happens. And it’s a work that is a miracle. Today people say oh there’s no miracles;
every time someone is regenerated it’s a miracle. It’s a creation miracle that’s instantaneous, and recapitulates
on a far more grand scale than anything in Genesis 1. So that’s important about regeneration.
On
page 49 I’ve got the sequence and I want to go over that sequence. Turn to John 17:3, because we’re going to
finish up regeneration and move on. In
John 17:3 is a description of eternal life.
“This is eternal life, that they may know Thee,” addressed to the
Father, “that they may know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou
hast sent.” Now if eternal life is
defined as knowing and knowing here is a relationship type knowing, if that’s
the case, then it’s arguing that knowing, associated with eternal life, is one
of the manifestations of regeneration. In other words, why does God
regenerate? He regenerates that we may know the Father and know the Son. It seems that it’s essential to that
relationship with God through Jesus Christ, meaning that no human religion, no
set of religious works, church membership, baptism, all the other things people
quote about got to do this, go to do that, got to repent, be a good boy, make
promises, dedicate your life and all the rest of the stuff, which is fruit,
maybe, I’m not arguing that but that’s not regeneration. Regeneration is a
miraculous work the Holy Spirit does and that is what opens up the relationship
with Jesus Christ. It’s not established
because of our good works, it’s not because we’re good boys and girls, it’s
only because of regeneration that that happens. That’s why we have to be thankful. Whatever we have that’s
worthwhile has been given to us through the Lord Jesus Christ.
On
page 49 what we tried to do is tie chapter 1 and chapter 2 together. We said there are two events that we’ve
studied so far, the ascension and Pentecost.
The diagram is simply pointing this out; the ascended Lord Jesus Christ
has proven righteousness. What do I
mean by “proven righteousness?” He lived a perfect life under trial, under
pressure, and He succeeded in obeying the Father at every point. Never was there a disobedient act. He vanquished satanic temptation completely
and perfectly. So it’s “proven
righteousness.” He ascends to heaven,
and that is chapter 1, “The heavenly origin of the Church.” See, we’re dealing with the origin of the
Church and the destiny of the Church this year. So the first line gives you the heavenly source of the origin of
the Church. The Church originated with
the ascension and session of Christ in so far as heaven is concerned.
On
earth, from heaven, the Lord Jesus Christ sends the Holy Spirit to regenerate,
and that’s the earthly origin of the Church.
We’ll press that point further as we go on. That yields Church Age believers who possess the eternal life of
Jesus Christ. Notice in the diagram
figure 3. That couldn’t have happened
in the Old Testament because in the Old Testament the Lord Jesus Christ wasn’t
risen, there was no proven righteousness.
Were there believers in the Old Testament? Of course there were believers in the Old Testament. Were they
saved by faith? Of course they were saved by faith. Was the object of their faith the promises of God? Of course they were. Were they saved
basically the same way? Yes, they were
saved the same way. Well then what’s different? What’s different is their relationship with God is different than
the relationship with believers in this dispensation. Clearly we are related by regeneration by His Holy Spirit sent
from an ascended Christ, which can’t be true of Abraham, David, and the
others. They lived anticipating that,
maybe they were conscious of it, maybe they weren’t; whatever salvation blessings
they enjoyed were based on an anticipation of the finished work of Christ. It was Christ-centered in the Old Testament
that way. But the details of the
relationship are unique to the Church Age.
Under
figure 3, if you follow the text, “This side of eternity two dominions now
exist: the old dominion given to First Adam at creation but lost to Satan at
the fall; and the new dominion given to the Second Adam at His ascension and
session. The new nature thus forms part
of the New Universe which has already begun in the Person of the resurrected,
ascended, and seated Christ. As such,
eternal life means for the Church Age believer that he knows God in Christ as
the final step of progressive revelation about God’s character.” Yes, there’s going to be more things
revealed about God in the future, about His plans, about His details, but we
have come to a crux in history with Pentecost because now the world knows that
sin has been paid for. No matter what
all the glorious things are that God is yet to reveal, they will be add-ons to
this fundamental truth that Jesus Christ succeeded in securing salvation, that
Jesus Christ succeeded in being the perfect human being. And as such He becomes the author of this
new humanity through regeneration.
One
other thing to notice about figure 3 and one of the reasons I put it there is
you notice there’s a sequence from the Son to the Holy Spirit. Remember we said in the doctrine of the
Trinity it’s the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son was begotten of the Father, the theologians use the word
“begotten,” it doesn’t mean he started at a point in time, there was a time
when the Son wasn’t there and then He got begotten and He was there. That’s not
what they mean. The word “begotten”
when dealing with the Trinity is the idea of derivation in the sense that you
have electricity going into the filament of a bulb and you have light coming
out of the bulb. It’s instantaneous and
simultaneous but in the logical sense the light follows from the electricity
going into the filament. The Son, in
that sense, is derivative of the Father, and the Holy Spirit is derivative of
the Son, and you observe this sequence. We’ll see this several times, that the
intra-triune sequence is always there, from Father to Son to Holy Spirit.
On
page 50 we’re going to start a new thing.
We’re going to leave regeneration and we’re going to move to indwelling,
“I” in RIBS. If the image of
regeneration is Gen. 1 is creation; the image of indwelling is that of a
temple. Turn to 1 Kings 8, when Solomon
made the temple; let’s note some things to get our picture right. Solomon built this building, he brought the
ark in and chapter 8 is the story about what happened when the ark was placed
in the temple. Verse 9, “There was
nothing in the ark except the two tablets of stone which Moses put there at
Horeb, where the LORD made a covenant with the
sons of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt. [10] And it came about
when the priests came from the holy place, that the cloud filled the house of
the LORD.” What do we mean “cloud filled the house of the Lord.” What cloud?
The cloud that goes back to what event?
Previous to this, when was the cloud most manifest in the history of
Israel? At the Exodus, remember, the
tabernacle, the cloud, every where the pillar of fire went they went. It was a physical thing; it was a physical
manifestation of the presence of God.
It
says after Solomon built the building and they brought the ark into the
building, according to verse 11, the glory filled the house. [11, “so that the priests could not stand to
minister because of the cloud, for the glory of the LORD filled the house of the LORD.”] So now the temple is filled with the
indwelling of God. Verse 12, “Then Solomon said, ‘The LORD has said that He would
dwell in the thick cloud. [13] I have surely built Thee a lofty house, a place
for Thy dwelling forever.’” The
dwelling is in the temple. It goes on
to describe this. In verse 22, “Then
Solomon stood before the altar of the LORD in the presence of all the assembly of Israel and spread out his hands
toward heaven.” Now watch this, this is
the wisest man who ever lived. Solomon
had an intellect that was in a super genius level. He was greater than Leonardo DaVinci; he was a Renaissance man in
everything. Here he’s describing the
nature of God Himself and he’s dealing with the same problem I introduced the
lesson with, how can you say God is localized at a point in space when He is an
omnipresent God, present at every point in space? So we want to look at this a
little just to feed our imagination, our mind’s eye, to get set up with the
proper Biblical category to understand indwelling. In verse 22, “Then Solomon stood before the altar of the LORD…”
Verse
23, “And he said, ‘O LORD,
the God of Israel, there is no God like Thee in heaven above or on earth
beneath, who art keeping covenant and showing lovingkindness to Thy servants
who walk before Thee with all their heart. [24] Who hast kept with Thy servant,
my father David, that which Thou hast promised him;” what covenant is he
referring to? Remember the Biblical
covenants, the Sinaitic Covenant, the Abrahamic Covenant before that one, after
that one the Davidic Covenant. Remember
what the Davidic Covenant promised? The
dynasty of David would endure forever on the throne of Israel. So in verse 24 he’s talking about the
dynasty promise, he’s not talking about some abstract, it’s something that can
be felt, touched, measured and verified.
“…indeed, Thou hast spoken with Thy mouth and hast fulfilled it with Thy
hand as it is this day. [25] “Now, therefore, O LORD, the God of Israel, keep with Thy servant David, my
father, that which Thou hast promised him, saying, ‘You shall not lack a man to
sit on the throne of Israel, if only your sons take heed to their way to walk
before Me as you have walked.’”
Verse
27, now Solomon deals with a conceptual issue of God indwelling a temple. “But will God indeed dwell on the earth?
Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain Thee, how much less this
house which I have built! [28] Yet” now watch what he does. I used the illustration of the CEO and the
desk, that’s the center of his operations.
Look at verse 28, “Yet have regard to the prayer of Thy servant and to
his supplication, O LORD my
God, to listen to the cry and to the prayer which Thy servant prays before Thee
today; [29] that Thine eyes may be open toward this house night and day, toward
the place of which Thou hast said, ‘My name shall be there,’ to listen to the
prayer which Thy servant shall pray toward this place. [30] And listen to the
supplication of Thy servant and to Thy people Israel, when they pray toward
this place; hear Thou in heaven Thy dwelling place; hear and forgive.” He clearly knows, verse 30, he’s clearly
acknowledging that even though the Shekinah glory is dwelling in the house,
verse 11, even though God in one sense indwells the temple, he hasn’t denied
thereby God’s omnipresence, nor has he denied that the real throne is still in
heaven. So there’s a little bit of a tension here when we come to this concept
of indwelling. Let’s work this out a
little bit.
Indwelling
does not mean canceling omnipresence.
It doesn’t mean that that attribute goes away. It doesn’t mean that God doesn’t have a special place, a special
place in heaven, we’re not denying that either. Well if it’s not denying those two things, what is it
affirming? One of the things it’s
affirming in verse 11, verse 12, that some part of God’s glory is localized in
the temple. So positively it’s
affirming that there’s a location of a meeting place, so to speak, between man
and God. Of course, God can meet us
anywhere, but there’s a specialty about whatever the indwelling temple is
about. That’s the Old Testament temple.
On
page 50 there’s a bunch of other verses if you want to look them up. Follow
with me, “Before the Solomonic Temple, of course, God’s glory indwelled the
Tabernacle.” Exodus 40:34 is the place you can see where that indwelling
happened. “God’s indwelling the
Tabernacle and later the Temple enabled communication between Himself and
Israel.” If it’s communication, because remember Solomon is talking about
prayer, the location of the meeting place, what do we mean by communication and
meeting place? Next sentence. “It was the
place where blood atonement occurred,” remember what they do in the
temple? What they’d do with the
sacrifices? They sacrificed them there? That was the location of sacrifice. It was “where washing was performed,” now
all these have a little connotation to them, and we’re going to see later, I’ll
tip you off to this sentence, you see the sentence we’re going through now, if
you’ll underline “blood atonement,” that’s number one. The temple was the place where blood
atonement occurred. Now if you think
about it, what does the epistle to the Hebrews say of us about a filthy
conscience is cleansed by the blood of Christ.
Where does that happen? The
blood is applied; the blood was sacrificed outside of Jerusalem on the cross
but the effect of that is applied inside our souls where this indwelling
happens. So in a sense there’s
something that corresponds to that atoning work internally.
Notice
the second clause in the sentence, “where washing was performed,” before
someone could come into the temple they had to wash. We’re going to find out, 1 John, we have to confess our sins.
Jesus said whoever, you know, does not take a bath is not part of me, Peter
said… so the washing occurs with our confession, which occurs in our soul. “…where incense burned,” incense, the third
thing, is a picture of prayer. Where does that happen? It happens at the meeting place with God and
where’s the meeting place with God in the Church Age? It’s inside, where
regeneration has happened. “…and where
His light shown.” Remember His light
shone in the temple. Where does
illumination to the Word of God happen?
In the human heart. So the four
functions that you see in that sentence, the blood atonement occurs, washing is
performed, incense is burned, and His light is shown. Those are all part of this meeting place between God and man.
In
the New Universe, when God dwells, there’s going to be a river coming out from
the throne, Rev. 21 and that’s a picture of Eden. In Eden they didn’t need a temple per se, before the fall, didn’t
need washing, didn’t need blood atonement, but they did need to meet with
God. And where did they meet with
God? In the Garden of Eden. So there’s always a localized meeting place,
whether it’s Eden, whether it’s an altar, whether it’s the Tabernacle, whether
it’s the Temple, and now the Church Age, after the Temple is destroyed, where
is the meeting place with God? In this
age the meeting place between God and man is in the regenerate nature. That’s
His own temple. Solomon built the temple, the Holy Spirit indwelt it. Jesus Christ today regenerates, and what
comes to indwell the regenerate nature?
The Holy Spirit. So regeneration
provides the faculty or the entity inside of us, and then the Holy Spirit
indwells that.
The
last sentence, middle paragraph, page 53, that’s what we mean when we say “the
proper relationship between the two may be expressed by saying that
regeneration provides the vessel for the indwelling Spirit of God,” just as
Solomon supplied the Temple that was later indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Now comes a little clarification, because
we’ve clearly got something going here that doesn’t quite match the Old
Testament and this last sentence of the last paragraph deals with that.
We’ll
look at some of the verses but just follow the text; we’ll go to the verses in
a minute. “The indwelling of the Spirit after Pentecost differs from His
indwelling during the age of Israel.” Just like regeneration, we had a
corresponding thing, circumcision of the heart which we’ll get into in a
minute. “Table Five lists the
dispensational distinctions observed in the Biblical record.” On page 51 you’ll see a chart. The chart is
divided in half, on the left side you see the Pre-Pentecostal Indwelling. On the right side you see Post-Pentecostal
Indwelling. So you have a changeover
that occurs. Here’s Pentecost, this is
Pre-Pentecost, this is Post-Pentecost; things here, things here, but they’re
different. What was the
difference? I’ve summarized some of
them. Notice the first row in table
5. What was the focus of the indwelling
in the Old Testament? The focus was to
“further the purpose of God for the nation Israel.” That was the purpose of the indwelling, to “further the purpose
of God for the nation Israel.” We’ll
give illustrations of that in a moment.
Pre-Pentecostal Indwelling Post-Pentecostal
Indwelling
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“job-centered”
ministry to further the “life-centered”
ministry to make eternal fellowship
purpose
of God for the nation Israel with
God a present reality (John 16:13-15)
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limited
to only some believers (and universal
for all and only believers (Rom. 8:9;
possibly
unbelievers Jude
1:11
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could
be asked for (2 Kings 2:9; Luke 11:13) automatic
(No NT command to seek indwelling
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Table
5. Summary of pre- and post-Pentecostal
Spirit indwelling
On
the right side of the table, what is the purpose of the indwelling Holy Spirit
on this side of Pentecost? It says a
“life-centered” ministry to make eternal fellowship with God a present reality. That’s what the Holy Spirit is here
for. The Holy Spirit now is more
“life-centered” on individual believers, whereas in the Old Testament He worked
with individuals but the goal was the nation Israel. You might add to that right side it’s really to build the Church,
the body of Christ.
The
second row on table five, the indwelling in the Old Testament was limited to
only some believers, and there are even passages that suggest that He could
have indwelt unbelievers. The Holy
Spirit worked through an ass, Baalim’s.
The Holy Spirit has freedom to do these kind of odd things, but
generally speaking it was only limited to some believers, it was not
universal. Right side, second row, it’s
“universal for all and only believers.”
Go to Rom. 8:9, I want to make this point. In the 20th century there’s been some sloppy theology
about this and you might have heard somebody get up, all excited, waving hands,
yelling and going on and someone says there’s a real man of God, the Holy
Spirit indwells him. Like the Holy Spirit doesn’t indwell every Christian? Rom. 8:9, “However you are not in the flesh
but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you.” But now notice, “But if anyone does not have
the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.” So indwelling is coterminous with salvation. You don’t have somebody saved without the
indwelling Holy Spirit. It’s not
salvation and you do 152 different good works and then you get to earn the
indwelling. The indwelling is there
from the beginning of the Christian life; it’s important to see that that’s
different. In the New Testament, this
side of Pentecost it’s universal, the other side of Pentecost it is limited.
Next
row, it was temporary, it could be removed, the Holy Spirit could remove
Himself from them. Psalm 51:11, here’s
the prayer, and often times because the liturgy…, I used to attend years ago a
liturgical church, and there’s nothing wrong with liturgy as long as the
liturgy is designed… a lot of the liturgies are designed with far more theology
in them than the present churches who are liturgical preach in the pulpits; the
liturgy beats the sermons. David, in
his penitential Psalm, the crisis, while he was king, the Holy Spirit indwells
him as king, and in verse 11, part of his confession is this: “Do not cast me
away from Thy presence, and do not take Thy Holy Spirit from me.” If you notice, it’s poetry and it’s
parallelism. The first part of verse 11
is parallel to the second part of verse 11, so before we go too far let’s note
the parallel. What did we say the image
of indwelling is? The temple. What’s the purpose of the temple? Communication.
What
is verse 11 saying? “Do not cast me
away from Thy presence,” and then simultaneously and coterminous with that,
“and don’t take your Holy Spirit from me.”
So what David is praying is that when God punishes him, chastens him for
his sin, that including in the chastening not be a taking away of the Holy
Spirit. But it meant more than just
“from Thy presence” because we know in the context of 1 and 2 Samuel, what did
it mean when it said “the Spirit came upon” Saul? The Spirit left Saul and came upon David. What was happening politically with this? In other words, the indwelling of the kings
in the Old Testament signified the dynastic right of his family. So in effect what David is praying in verse
11 is also that his dynasty continue, that he not be like Saul where the Holy
Spirit did leave Saul. David says please
don’t take the Holy Spirit from me, not only because of Your presence, but because
of the preservation of my family as sitting on this throne. I point that out, we don’t have time to
develop it but I assure you it’s there in 1 and 2 Samuel, because this shows
you that in the Old Testament indwelling has a special connotation, and one of
the connotations it had with regard to David was dynastic succession. But it was temporary; obviously David
thought it was temporary because he’s praying that it not be taken away.
Turn
to Eph. 4:30, we’re going to get into another doctrine, sealing, but we’ll
anticipate a little bit. In the New
Testament, this side of Pentecost, “Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by
whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.” Not only is the Holy Spirit universal to every believer, the Holy
Spirit is a seal, He never leaves till the day of redemption. He can’t leave
and it’s permanent. So the other
contrast between pre and post-Pentecost is one side it was temporary and on the
other side it’s permanent.
The
fourth row, right side, “it could be asked for,” one could make the indwelling
of the Holy Spirit a petition to God.
In Luke 11:13 it is, “How much more will the Father give the Holy Spirit
to them who ask Him.” And some
Christians will go ahead and pray that.
What’s the problem? Luke 11
occurs before Pentecost, Pentecost hasn’t come in Luke. You’ve got to read the Gospels as
pre-Pentecost. This is the life of the
Holy Spirit under the Old Testament dispensation that hadn’t finished yet when
the four Gospels are recording history.
After Pentecost comes and after the Church forms, now there’s no New
Testament command for indwelling whatsoever, in the entire New Testament. It’s gone.
The reason—because you don’t have to ask for it, it comes with
regeneration, it’s part of this RIBS thing.
As
an example of the ministry of the Holy Spirit, I list verses in the second
paragraph on page 51, I want to show you some instances of how the Holy Spirit
worked in the age of Israel. “In
pre-Pentecostal times, Israel consisted of a mixed multitude of believers and
unbelievers. The kind of indwelling which occurred, therefore, was primarily to
aid the mixed nation in fulfilling its historic calling rather than to bring
everyone into immediate, individual, eternal fellowship with God. Builders of the Tabernacle and the Temple
were indwelt for natural skills,” underline the word “natural,” “natural skills
to produce those structures.” What was one of the skills they had? Carpentry,
carpenters were gifted by the Holy Spirit so that the Tabernacle would be made
right. See what the difference is
there? Those are natural skills that
were supernaturally given to craftsmen in order that this physical Temple and
Tabernacle be made correctly.
Next
sentence, “Israel’s judges were indwelt at times for special acts of political
and military deliverance,” there’s a whole series of references in the book of
Judges, “the spirit came upon” so and so. What does that mean? What was so and so doing when the Spirit of
God came upon him? The spirit would
come upon… [blank spot] … that’s the
kind of ministry. So if you start
listing the last four lines in that paragraph, carpentry, that was part of the
object of the Holy Spirit, political leadership, battle field skills in
military science, and making a donkey talk.
That was what the Holy Spirit indwelling was all about. I’ve summarized already about David and the
dynastic thing. Therefore, there’s a
difference.
Indwelling
in the New Testament means something other than what it meant in the Old
Testament. Page 52, “the Spirit now
indwells permanently, not temporarily (Eph. 4:30). No Christian who knows the
doctrine of indwelling can ever pray the prayer of David in Psalm 51:11 or the
disciples’ prayer in Luke 11:13.” That
doesn’t mean that you can’t pray prayers that are very analogous to that. Of course we can confess our sin; of course
we can ask God for blessing. But one of
the blessings we don’t have to ask for this side of Pentecost is the indwelling
Holy Spirit because He’s already here.
“As
we have seen, God indwells temples.”
Turn to 1 Cor. 3 because Paul uses this temple imagery again, associated
with indwelling. Here’s another New
Testament epistle and here’s a verse that talks about the indwelling. He mentions the temple analogy two
ways. We’re going to look at the two
ways Paul uses the temple imagery. The
first time he uses it is 1 Cor. 3:16, “Do you not know that you are a temple of
God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?” Was Corinth a particularly advanced, highly spiritual
church? I don’t think so, these people
couldn’t get resurrection straight, they were getting drunk in communion, they
were so out of it that God had to discipline some of them by killing them after
communion service. So this is not a
highly spiritual church, and yet he has the audacity to make a claim that
frankly a lot of evangelical Christians get upset with Paul saying this. How can you call such a carnal church a
place where God dwells, I don’t think you’re very perceptive, I don’t think
you’ve got the gift of discernment.
What
does the text say, he’s not talking to the Galatians here, he’s talking to the
Corinthians, and he says “you,” plural, “a temple,” now what does temple
mean? Meaning number one, in 1 Cor. 3
it equals the local church. You all are
a temple. Is it talking about a
building? No, the building is the place
where the temple meets, but the temple isn’t the building. We don’t into the house of God, the Church
is the house of God. If we have
forty-four people who are believers in one place that’s a forty-four brick
temple right there. So here’s a case where Paul is saying… and then he says, by
the way, verse 17, “If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy
him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are.” What does he mean “destroy the temple.” If you look back up in verses 10, 11, 12,
13, he’s talking about the works of the flesh, things that are just useless as
far as the temple is concerned, and he says these can be deleterious, these can
be offensive, these can undermine the Church, but “if any man destroys the
temple of God,” God’s going to destroy him.
God’s going to protect His Church.
I
think it was in World Magazine, the last issue, a fascinating observation about
a little unknown event that happened in Afghanistan. As you know, on the TV and radio now they’re concerned with
trying to rebuild this mess and one of the magnets to try to get all these
tribes together is the king that had abdicated years and years ago. They want to bring the King back so they can
get them all together and say hey guys, can you agree at least that this good
man could kind of hold us together here at the center. What the newspapers haven’t told us is the
circumstances under which he abdicated. Back many, many years ago before this
man abdicated as king, there was a missionary by the name of Mr. Wilson, and
Mr. Wilson led a lot of Afghan people to Jesus Christ along with some State
Department people, etc. in Kabul. So
they had to have a church; they wanted a church started. Even back then there was a general Muslim
population and then there were a few of these fanatics, people in now the
Taliban, and they hated the Christians.
The poor Afghans that converted out of Islam had a real problem, and
they had to meet surreptitiously along with the Christians who happened to be
there with our Consulate in Kabul.
They
formed a church and this thing started spreading. Afghans in Kabul really started becoming Christians. This really frosted the Muslims; they had to
do something about it. When Wilson went
out and said hey, can we build a church.
The Muslims can build mosques in America but Christians can’t build
church buildings in Islamic lands. This
is the other side of this little coin, the sword only cuts one way. They were not allowed to build a
church. Wilson realized, at the time
Eisenhower was President, this was years back, in the 50’s, Eisenhower had just
dedicated the first mosque in D.C. and it was a ceremonial thing, ha-ha, we’re
free in America and give everybody rights.
Eisenhower made the proper political clucking noises for this ceremony
thing. Wilson heard about it and he
said ah, Eisenhower is going to come over and visit the king. So he somehow got word to Eisenhower’s
pastor, would you kind of ask the President when he comes over to Kabul, would
you have him kind of lean on the king here a little bit and say hey, you know
we let a mosque be built in D.C., how about you guys letting a church building
be built in Kabul. Good idea said
Eisenhower. So Eisenhower goes over
there and he talks to the king and says you know, there’s Christians here and
they’d kind of like a church building where they can meet, do you have a
problem with that? The guy said no,
we’ll go ahead; the king agreed to do it.
So
they built the church building. Three
years later, by this time the Moslem fanatics are really ticked that this thing
is growing, got to stop this, can’t have this in a Muslim land, so they decide
to compel the king to agree to destroy the building. By the way, they hear there’s going to be an “underground” church
developing around this building, so they come in with bulldozers, knock the
building down and start digging twelve feet down because they think there’s an
underground church, I mean, these people are kind of slow. But they go in and they destroy this
thing. And what do the Christians
do? Interesting lesson, the Christians
obviously can’t be in the building when it’s being destroyed, so the Christians
all back out, form a ring around the building, bow in prayer, and between their
prayers they even offer tea, water and cookies to the soldiers that are
guarding the bulldozers that are destroying the church. But all the time they’re praying. Within hours from the time they started
praying the king was overthrown.
What
does it say? It says here “if any man
destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him,” mess around with the church
and you may be successful for a while, but you’re going to be taken out of
history. I think you’re going to see
this because two of the great regimes that have crushed the Christians in the
Middle East, one of them is Saudi Arabia and the other one is Iraq and
Iran. Watch what happens to those
governments. As long as there are
Christians praying; these are Christians who took a prayerful stand,
nonviolent, didn’t fight them; “the weapons of our warfare are not carnal,”
they’re spiritual. But within hours
those prayers were answered and that regime fell. The question is maybe Humpty Dumpty fell and they can’t bring all
the pieces back together again because of a spiritual problem. We don’t know this.
History
is loaded with all these little spiritual background stories which, when we get
to heaven someday it’s going to be fascinating to have God take us all through
the acts of history that we learned in high school and college and we learned
all about the dates and the angels who are probably going to be our history
teachers are going to say hey, do you want to know what really happened in this
year, this year, this year? Want to
know what really happened in 1776? Do
you want to know what really happened in World War I? What a fascinating story that will be. Talk about the other dimension to history.
Paul,
in 1 Cor. 3 is talking about the church as a temple, and we want to conclude
with the second meaning of the word “temple” here. Turn to 1 Cor. 6:19, now he’s talking about the individual, the
individual body, he’s not talking about the body of the Church, he’s talking
about the individual “body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you,” and there he’s talking about an
individual believer. Imbedded in all
that is that’s why the body, even though it’s cursed, even though it’s on its way
out through the death process, the body is considered to be important in the Bible. We’re not just a spirit, we’re also a body,
and there’s a certain respect for the body that is implicit in looking at it as
a temple. You know, you clean it, you
take care of it, somebody cleans the temple, and there’s a certain theology
which we won’t have time to go into, but as far as taking care of yourself,
health wise and other wise, it’s not unspiritual to do that because this is
part of the temple, this is the temple of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit thinks enough of the body to
be using it for His purposes, so maybe we ought to pay a little more attention
sometimes than we do.
Follow
me in the rest of these paragraphs on page 52 I’ll finish up this section on
indwelling so we can get to baptism next time.
“As we have seen, God indwells temples.
It is no accident, therefore, that Paul refers to the local body of
believers as a temple and calls the individual Christian’s physical body a
temple. In this age the ‘house of God’
does not refer to any church building; it refers to the group of believer who
meet in such a building wherever their location is on earth. It even includes those who have died in
Christ and are now in heaven.” There’s
a footnote there if you want to chase that one down, look up that text, in the
majority reading, the Tabernacle in heaven is blasphemed in the middle of the
Tribulation. It’s called “those who
dwell in heaven,” (comma) the Tabernacle.
I think a strong evidence for the rapture of the Church prior to the end
of the Tribulation.
“As
the Temple of God in this age, the Church is where God meets man—where He
reveals Himself and where reconciliation occurs. It is also the only place where God meets man for
fellowship. The doctrine of indwelling
with its temple imagery offends all advocates of religious pluralism by its
dogmatic exclusivity,” meaning where’s the center of operations today. Believers, believers in the Lord Jesus
Christ. Why? Because we’re such good people?
No. That’s just the way God has
designed this age. The only place He meets people… you say wait a minute, can’t
a hotten-tot meet somebody? Yeah, but
how is a person led to Christ today, anywhere?
By a message. Where did the
message come from? From the temple, it
came from believers. So everybody is
led to Christ by contact some way with a message that is emanating from the
Church.
“Through
it alone comes the message of reconciliation in the atonement of Jesus
Christ. In it alone is God illuminating
hearts to His sanctifying light.” So
there you have an outline of the doctrine of the temple, we’ve dealt with the
doctrine of regeneration, next week we’re going to deal with baptism, and on
page 53 you’ll see all the different uses of the word baptize, there are eight
different uses of the word “baptize” in the Bible, and five of the eight are
dry, only three are wet. Then you come to sealing on page 55 and on page 56
we’re going to deal with intercession, and the last one will be spiritual
gifts. So those are the six things,
RIBS plus intercession, plus spiritual gifts.
Six things the Holy Spirit has done for us so it’s something to thank
Him for, something to be appreciative of.
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Question
asked: Clough replies: Each one of
these metaphors or illustrations, like adoption, I think Dr. Chafer, who was
the founder of Dallas Seminary, in his Systematic
Theology lists 33 of them. We’ve
just gone through 18 and it seems like a lot, but things like you mentioned,
they’re all accumulated metaphors each with its own little contribution to
sharpen our sense of what’s going on.
And adoption is much more legal than regeneration. Regeneration is more
creation. Adoption looks at it from
the law standpoint and it was used in the first century Roman society that
adoption meant quite a bit. Scholars have debated over whether it’s adoption in
the Old Testament sense or adoption in the Roman sense. It seems that really Paul used the Roman
sense, he didn’t use the Jewish sense, because remember, Paul was communicating
to who? Primarily Gentiles. And in particular, that particular adoption
passage is in Romans, so why not in Rome do as the Romans do. So he’s using a Roman metaphor and adoption
was a lot more serious.
I
haven’t studied a lot about the adoption but I’ve studied enough of it, there’s
a scholar, an English legal professor who did a book, I can’t think of the
title, Servant, Slaves and Sons or something like that, and it’s a study he did
of all the intricate, legal manifestations of adoption. It turns out it’s a very, very rich picture
of the privileges that we have as Christians in the family of God. And the idea of how our utter, unprivileged
state that we came from in order to get into this, so it seems like the
metaphor of adoption is to cause us to be thankful for what He’s done by
bringing us into His home and letting us share the assets of the family that we
had no business being a part of. It’s a
powerful metaphor.
But
all these are… you know, look at it from this point of view, look at it from
that point of view, because there’s so many faceted [can’t understand word] on
it that you could spend all eternity looking at what He has done here. That’s all I’m trying to do here, we’re
touching this so fast and I kind of apologize for going through these verses so
fast but again, this course is not one on exegesis, I’m just trying to
accumulate these passages. Just with
regeneration and indwelling you see all the connotations and implications of
what’s going on here. Wait till we get to baptism, we’ll see another implication;
with the sealing we see another implication.
The intercession, that’s a fantastic thing, what the Holy Spirit does
and the kind of praying He does, amazing!
Then spiritual gifts and that doesn’t even begin to exhaust the work
that God has done for us.
Question
asked: Clough replies: That’s a good
point, about how you usually don’t hear much about the work of the Holy Spirit,
and there’s a reason for that too, there’s a theological reason for that. Turn to John 16, the Lord Jesus Christ tells
us that that’s probably going to be the case.
This is an interesting verse because it forces us back to the Trinity
again. John 16:13-14, “Bu when He, the
Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth;” He’s talking
here to the apostles in context, and probably He’s referring mostly to the
generation of the New Testament text, but pay attention as you read through
this, look what the emphasis is on.
“But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the
truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He
will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come,” by the way, that
shows you prophecy. The Holy Spirit is
the One that gave all the prophetic passages to John.
Verse
14, “He shall glorify Me; for He shall take of Mine, and shall disclose it to
you.” He’s not disclosing His own
things. The Holy Spirit’s mission in
life, in history, is to reveal the Son, the Second Person of the Trinity, and
because He does that so efficiently and so effectively, we tend to focus on
Jesus, rightly, and then forget the fact, well wait a minute, who’s teaching us
all this, and it’s the Holy Spirit.
Question
asked: Clough replies: Yes, and the
manifestation of the Spirit is actually a manifestation of Christ’s
nature. The reason this is important is
because in the history of the 20th century there have been people
fed up, and rightfully so in many cases, with what they call dead orthodoxy and
they’ve drifted over into what we call charismatic theology. And in charismatic theology the emphasis is
on glorifying the Holy Spirit. That
doesn’t fit these passages. The Holy
Spirit did not come to draw attention to Himself. He’s an eloquent example, by the way, that subordination doesn’t
mean inferiority of person. The Holy Spirit is no less deity because He doesn’t
say hey, here I am, I’m the Holy Spirit, everybody bow down to Me. He says bow down to Jesus, and He’s a
perfect servant. As God He is a perfect servant because He receives of the Son
and He magnifies the Son. It’s amazing,
He’s a model for a servant, and so when, presumably when He leads us correctly
and we adjust to Him we will be servants too and we will point, not to
ourselves, but to the Lord Jesus Christ and make Him the issue, not what we are,
and what great people we are.
Thankfully we have enough Scripture so we can go back to the Scriptures
and say well, we recognize the Holy Spirit, He’s done this, He’s done that, and
we can be appreciative to Him for His work.
It’s just that if He were here to speak tonight He’d say just glorify
Christ.
Question
asked, something about in light of Gal. 2:20… Clough replies: It’s
hypothetical. If the Holy Spirit were
to leave us, Paul says we would not be Christ’s. I mean, we’d lose our salvation and everything else, so the big
idea here is just to hone in on some of the details of what it means to be a
believer in the Church Age. That’s what
this is all about, because that was… remember Appendix A on Reformed and
Dispensational theology, and I said we can’t avoid it any longer discussing
this because we’re going to get face to face with it. Well now you see what I
mean. We’re starting to see the differences between the Old Testament and the
New Testament. We’re not undermining
the Old Testament, the Old Testament is the foundation of the New Testament,
but you can’t go in there and promiscuously grab hold of warning passages, etc.
like that that are addressed to Israel and hastily, sometimes you can bring
them over as metaphors, as wisdom, but you can’t go in there and hastily jerk
them up and drop them over into the New Testament.
You
can’t do that, because one of the Ten Commandments is what? Keep the Sabbath. Christians have over the centuries converted that to Sunday. But the Old Testament doesn’t know about
anything on Sunday, the Old Testament is Saturday. That’s Old Testament and it still is Old Testament and you go to
Israel and Friday night at sundown you don’t walk into some of these ultra
orthodox places or they’ll stone you, even today, in Jerusalem, because they
don’t want anybody messing around after sunset, 6:00 p.m. on Friday night, and
you just be good boys and girls, and some of them don’t eat, don’t cook, use
sandwiches I guess, all day on Saturday until 6:00 p.m. comes around and okay,
now it’s Sunday, because the Jewish days start at night, just like creation
starts in darkness and becomes light.
The Jewish day starts in darkness and becomes light; it’s patterned
after Gen. 1. So that’s why they have
Saturday and that’s right. So now if we
say well Sunday is Sabbath, we’ve got to re-analyze things. We understand, hey, it’s okay, Sunday is the
Christian day because Jesus rose from the dead, etc., there’s nothing wrong
with that. It’s just that the rules
that pertain to the Sabbath, I think are really nice to take a break, but
they’re not mandated in the Church Age. Where do you find the sabbatical
legislation anywhere in the New Testament?
You don’t find it.
Question
asked something about Christ didn’t come to abolish the law…: Clough
replies: Why not? If the law is
fulfilled in Jesus Christ, then it hasn’t not been fulfilled, and it hasn’t not
been abolished. The law held up a
righteous standard to which Jesus submitted and proved Himself, and the point
there is that the Old Testament… everybody is a dispensationalist of some sort,
because they’ve got to say that parts of the Old Testament law are gone.
Same
person says they make a distinction, the ceremonial law: Clough: Well, I understand that, but the law is a
unit, and in particular in the New Testament if we had time we could go through
1 Cor. Paul is even citing, the law that is done away with and he quotes the
Ten Commandments part of it. So you
can’t fracture the Old Testament law.
There’s only one covenant there, it’s called the Sinaitic Covenant. Think about it, can you take a mortgage, a
loan agreement that you have on your car and take out paragraph 3 and leave
paragraph 5 and go to the bank and say hey, it’s okay, I’m not breaking
it. I don’t think so! And I don’t think you’re going to do that to
your mortgage and I don’t think you’re going to do that to any other loan
agreement that you have, and I don’t think you’re going to do that to any
business contract you’re involved in.
You’re not going to fracture up a contract, say oh well, gee, I don’t
break it. What do you mean you don’t
break it? You just wiped out half of
it.
So
every contract is inviolable that way.
How do we in our society handle a problem like that? You renegotiate the contract, right? You sit down and agree that okay, we’ll drop
paragraph 2 out and we’ll redo the contract, we’ll sign it again. But the new contract is still a unit, isn’t
it. It’s gone from one unit to another
unit. Are there same provisions in
them? Yeah. The same thing as you go from one dispensation to the next. God signs a contract here; He modifies it
and signs a contract over here, no problem.
The point is that if when you have a lease, say for example, or better
yet a loan agreement, what’s the loan agreement? The loan agreement is that after 24 payments you’re done. So you pay off the loan, it’s done. Now you don’t send checks to the bank,
because you’re already paid it off. Well, if you don’t send checks to the bank
can I come up to you and say hey, you’re breaking that contract, you’re not
sending your checks in any more. Well,
no, the contract was to cover the period of the loan. The loan is done, the contract is over, sorry, bye, I’m free of
the contract. That’s the point. We’re
free of the contract. It doesn’t mean
we’re antinomian, that we don’t have another contract. We have a New Testament,
that’s what He says, New Testament, and that thing is the whole set of
epistles.
But
here’s the trick and I’ll mention this later on in an Appendix. If you were to take the time and a
concordance and look up every imperative mood, that is every command verb, from
Acts 2 to the end of Rev. 3, take that whole part of the text, every verb,
boom, boom, boom, boom, make a data base, and build a set of the commands that
are in there. Now do the same thing in
the Mosaic Law Code; you get your two data bases and compare and notice what’s
missing in the New Testament. No hygienic
laws, no ceremonial laws, no banking laws, no tax laws, no welfare laws, what’s
going on? Answer: The Old Testament was given to a nation that
needed policies; the New Testament is given to believers that live in hundreds
of different nations and they’re not to make that an issue, they’re to make
Christ the issue.
Does
that mean we can’t use the Old Testament laws?
No, we can go back and mine it for its wisdom principles, and we can to
the extent as Christian citizens, we can campaign. When Nancy Jacobs got
elected, one of the first things I did, I went and bought Rushdoony’s book
which is a thick book, called The
Institutes of Biblical Law, and you can look up every social function you
want to in the Mosaic Law Code, and I gave it to her because I said you’re
going to get in debates while you’re in this House of Delegates, this was when
she was a delegate, and they’re going to come up and hit you, and you’ve got to
figure out oh man, what do I do, what’s a good wise decision here, or there. Go
back to the Law code; find out how God ruled His nation and maybe it will give
you some insights. Some of them you
can’t apply, some of them you can, some of them you want to and nobody wants to
do it, that’s okay. But it’s a source
of some intellectual content to your legislative debates in the House of
Delegates. So that’s how you use the
Old Testament, and how you’re going to use it today as a Christian citizen in
this country. It’s not that we’re
neglecting it, it’s that we are not saying it’s mandatory for every person in
the United States of America to obey the Mosaic Law Code. Remember, it was given not to the Church; it
was given to a nation. We’ll see more
of this as we go on.
Someone
says something: Clough says: It’s going to require a major and brilliant,
brilliantly skillful approach and it may come down to a tug of war. I heard from a liberal source, I forgot where
it was, I was reading it, that they said this latest, the episode we had with
John Ashcroft, they said they were totally stunned in both houses of Congress
by the outpouring of pro-Ashcroft. They
said they never dreamed that he had the support. Well, he really didn’t.
What happened was that it hit an issue, the Ashcroft thing hit an issue
that was sitting there percolating all along and finally people that didn’t
know Ashcroft from the man in the moon realized wait a minute, you talk about
racial profiling, this is Christian profiling, they’re just waiting for a
Christian to come up so they can shoot them. So there was thousands and
thousands and tens of thousands of Christians saying enough is enough of this
stuff and we’re going to do something about it. All of a sudden phone calls,
e-mails, everything else came in. Whoa,
we got a hot potato here, we’re good politicians, we’ll leave that one alone. So you’re okay John, fine, you take
over. That’s what happens, and that’s
the kind of response we’ve got to get but how we get that I don’t know. It’s just a lot of prayerful support and
it’s skill. But we’ve been out maneuvered in a lot of areas.
Question
asked or statement made: Clough replies:
I think what breeds that is… see, the dirty little secret that the
liberals haven’t figured out yet, nobody’s clued them, is that growing
underneath this evangelical community are tens of thousands of home schooled
kids that are now emerging, they’re hitting their twenties, and they don’t
share that core value system that was imposed in the public schools. They don’t even come in contact with it, so
now all of a sudden you really do have two cultures. I mean, our young people, the guys and gals that are hitting
their early twenties, they’re going to really see some interesting days,
because you talk about black and white society with no gray in between, that’s
what they’re going to live in. It’s
going to be exciting because they’ll be in a situation where it won’t be like
the 50’s and 60’s where everybody was operating on kind of a quasi Christian
basis, this is going to be the out and out pagans and the out and out
Christians.
It’ll
be a fascinating time, it’s just that they have to be fortified and they have
to realize they’re taking on a big thing here.
So I think that’s the fruit of a lot of work, we’ve been praying for
revival and we’ve been praying for these kind of things, very quietly and not
just home schoolers but godly couples raising their kids as best they can in
the public system as well as the home schoolers, parents that have sent their
kids to Christian schools. That’s been
going on now for a generation of so and that’s bound to cause some interesting
problems for the other side.
Our
time is up.