Biblical Framework
Charles Clough
Lesson 121
We’re
going to look at some of the details of what happened in response to the King’s
presence. Matt. 12:14 is just one
example of the reaction to the King. As
I said, you can read the Gospels and you can watch this process operate, in
that the first part of the Gospels is the King, basically presenting Himself,
showing Himself to be the Messiah through words and through works. For a while He attracts people, for a while
He builds numerically His followers, and then at a certain critical point,
almost literally half way through each of the four Gospels, the process
reverses. There becomes a reaction to
the presence of the King and He becomes a very controversial person, and one
who cultivates, as it were, fury on the part of those who can’t stand Him.
In
Matt. 12 is one of the turning points in His ministry. That summarizes the action of the society’s
leadership class to the person of Jesus Christ. From this point on it’s just a matter of time before He’s
crucified. Note in verse 14, “But the
Pharisees went out, and counseled together against Him,” so it wasn’t just one
or two people, it was an entire coalescing of the leadership of the society,
they “counseled together against Him as to how they might destroy Him.” That is the response to the King. Because we’re so used to preaching the
Gospel and saying Jesus was crucified and we’re saved through His crucifixion,
maybe sometimes we don’t give adequate attention to what led to the
crucifixion. Yes, the crucifixion is
wonderful, but the crucifixion actually grew out of hatred, and it’s this
hatred for God, a hatred for revelation, a hatred directed against the most
clear form of revelation that has ever occurred in human history, The purer and the clearer the revelation,
the more violent the reaction will be against it. So Jesus Christ becomes a case that is clearer to see than
Isaiah, Moses, Daniel, David, or any of the other leaders of the Bible because
He was perfect; the revelation was unhindered by any personal sin in His life,
so the righteousness of God shown forth.
Therefore the sin in response to that righteousness showed up very
violently.
Starting
on page 51 I want to examine the long quote by professor Stroll because we want
to understand in our thinking as Christians how the hatred against God and the
animosity against any revelation, hint or suggestion about His character. We want to study that and study man’s
response to it. I just picked this
out, it’s twenty or thirty years old, but it would be typical of what you would
hear in any university classroom today, same story. It was typical of what you would read in Time Magazine, every
Christmas and every Easter, U.S. News and World Report, all the news magazines,
it would be typical of a television program discussion, wherever you go. So even though this was a particular lecture
at the University of British Columbia thirty years ago, it still has a
structure that’s valid today.
We
want to go through this little assault on our faith. Part of this course is to become used to the assaults, the
attacks against our position and understand them so we can stand against them. I want to see how sharp we are by way of
observation. I found at least eight
places in this professor’s dissertation where he betrays his presuppositional
position, where he shows the bias against the Word of God. We want to get cued to listening for this,
because this isn’t just professor Stroll, this isn’t just the academic
intellectuals; the men on the street are the same way. It’s just that they express it
differently. We want to tune into this
thing and understand where the attack is coming from. So let’s go through this with sort of a fine toothed comb and
watch.
Remember
when we started this we started in Genesis.
I said over and over again one of the places I personally have failed
many times is when someone asks you a question about your faith, about the
gospel, immediately you’re thinking of an answer, what can I answer to that
question? Wrong! That’s not the first thing you think
about. The first thing you think about
is the question itself. Review it; make sure that you really want to answer
that question. It gets back to how many
times last week did you beat your wife.
You can’t answer it any other way than incriminating yourself. A
question can be a trap for you, so don’t walk into the trap. Always review the
question, filter the question before you try to give an answer to it. That’s a
basic principle.
Watch
what happens when this guy gets up and gives his lecture. “In contemporary philosophical theology one
of the most widely debated questions concerns the relation between the
historical Jesus, a man supposedly living in Palestine sometime between 9BC and
AD 32, and the Jesus described in the Gospel writings….” Remember I told you before we got started
with this, what do you have to keep your eyes on? The historical Jesus and the kerygmatic Christ; we defined those
terms and here it is. He’s not using
kerygmatic Christ, but the idea is there.
Let’s review. The historical
Jesus and the kerygmatic Christ, what do we mean by these two terms. The first
one is referring to the real Jesus that walked around Palestine, the historical
Jesus. The second term is the
kerygmatic, that’s the Greek word “the preached” Christ, meaning the New
Testament picture of Jesus. Later we’re
going to discuss the diagram on page 53; we might as well skip over there for a
minute because we’re seeing a good example of it.
Figure
2 shows in picture form what the ideas are that are going on here. When I first got into New Testament
criticism it took me a while to understand what is going on here. I finally boiled it down to this kind of way
of looking at it.
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Historical
“Real” Jesus Kerygmatic NT Christ
Position A: Complete divorce
between the historical Jesus and the New Testament picture.
Historical /
Kerygmatic NT
Jesus /
Christ
Position B: partial divorce between the historical Jesus and the
New Testament picture.
Historical Kerygmatic
Real Jesus Christ
Position C: Identity
between the historical Jesus and the New Testament picture.
Figure
2. Three views of the relationship between the “real” historical Jesus and the
New Testament picture of Him (the so-called “kerygmatic Christ). Positions A and B show paganized viewpoints
whereas Position C shows the Biblical worldview. The same three positions could be extended to the entire canon of
Scripture.
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Position
A, Position B and Position C. Positional
C has the Historical Kerygmatic Real Jesus Christ, same person. The picture of Jesus that we get in the New
Testament is the picture of the true Jesus.
We could quibble here, we could quibble… you could say well, is it the
New Testament picture of Jesus really what a 1st century Jew who
happened to be in the street listening to Jesus would have thought? Then I’d have to grant you that every Jew
that walked the streets of Palestine in the 1st century wasn’t clued
in to who Jesus was. It’s very clear
they weren’t. But that’s not the
historical Jesus. The historical Jesus that we’re talking about is who He
really was, not what the average person on the street misinterpreted to be the
historical Jesus. They viewed Him as
just a carpenter’s son. But that wasn’t
true; He was the Son of God. So when we
talk about the historic Jesus we mean the kerygmatic Christ, because the Holy
Spirit who wrote the New Testament reported accurately what was going on with
this enigmatic figure, the God-man, Jesus Christ. The New Testament text preserves that.
Let’s think about something we’ve covered in the past. We said back in the first part of the Bible
that the entire human race at one point had the Noahic Bible available, Genesis
1-9. The entire human race had those 9
chapters. Today you go back into
ancient history and you read all kinds of myths, Pandora’s Box, this lady that
opens up the box and all the evil comes out.
There’s truth in that Pandora’s Box mythology, isn’t there. What is it?
It’s a distorted faint memory of what event of real history? Eve.
Achilles and his heel, what’s that a faint remembrance of? What was the promise of the Messiah to Adam
and Eve? The seed, thou shalt bruise
His heel but you shall bruise his head.
And it’s preserved in the myth of Achilles. It’s twisted, turns, you could read they myth of Achilles and
never having read the Bible you would never get it out of there. Never!
But that myth preserves some of history and distorts the rest.
So
what we said was you could take the Noahic Bible, Genesis 1-9 and you could
take any myth, Pandora’s Box, Achilles, the Enuma
Elish mythology, and if you took those two things, the Bible and the myths,
and you put them side by side, what have you got a testimony of? What interesting, profoundly interesting
data do you have here? What you have is
what the fallen flesh does with truth.
The mythologies are case studies of spiritual pathology that infects the
human race. The myths are pictures, by
measuring the delta, the difference between the myth and the Scripture, that’s
the measure of sin and its affect on the intellect. Why this is never taught, even in Christian schools I will never
know. But Christians should be taught this.
You’ve got a built-in experiment. Every experiment has a control. The Genesis 1-9 text is the control. The myths are what the sinful mind has
generated down through history. Great poets, great stimulating writers, great oral
teachers have generated this mythological material. They were smart, skilled people, but what they did when put up
against the control is a reflection of the hamartiology (or the doctrine of
sin), it’s a reflection of the pathology of the fallen intellect. What does it do to revelation? It always distorts revelation.
Why
is there so much energy in the fleshly mind of man that works itself so hard to
keep down and keep suppressing revelation?
Paul says that in Romans 1. It is to avoid what? If I can suppress revelation what can I fool
myself and self-deceive myself into thinking?
I’m no longer accountable to the God of creation. You see there’s a powerful subliminal agenda
at work here, behind the pathology, and the agenda is to get me safe as a
sinner, get me safe from a hole, from a righteous God to whom I’m accountable. That’s
the whole motif here. That’s the thing
that’s going on behind the scenes that generates all this delta between what
the Scripture reports and what the mythologies create.
Let’s
come to the New Testament and the diagram in figure 2. This diagram shows the
same truth that I just got through saying, except now in place of the Noahic
Bible we have the Kerygmatic Christ, and in place of the mythology we have the
(quote) “Historical Jesus.” People want
to split them apart, the historical Jesus in position A, that’s what’s
mythological. They’re seeking for a
Jesus of history that is not the Son of God, they’re seeking for historic
harmless Jewish carpenter boy, because if He’s only a historical Jewish
carpenter boy, and not the Son of God, whew! I can breathe a sigh of
relief. But if He really is the
kerygmatic Christ of the New Testament, now I’ve got a problem, He’s my judge,
besides being a Savior. Moreover, “I am
the way, the truth, and the life, and no man comes to the Father but by Me,” I
have no choice in the matter because He is the only way of salvation.
So
faced with this you’d better believe that I’m going to try to create a
historical Jesus that’s harmless.
Understand the agenda that’s going on here. See this agenda at work so this doesn’t become just an abstract
study in what some intellectual says.
The intellectuals are affected in exactly the same way as the
non-intellectuals. It doesn’t make any
difference whether you’re intellectual or not, we’re all fallen. And part of our fallen nature is to avoid
and want to hide from God. What did Adam and Eve do two seconds after they
fell? Trying to hide, hide themselves,
hide behind the bushes. We’re still
doing it, except now instead of using fig leaves we use ideas, and we use
literature, and we use all kinds of sophisticated gimmickry, but we’re doing
the same thing as Adam and Eve did with fig leaves.
So
Position B is like Avrum Stroll where they’re trying to spread apart the
kerygmatic New Testament Christ that’s so offensive, so demanding, so
compelling, and create the “real” Jesus, make this “real” Jesus harmless.
Back
to Stroll’s quote. Watch how it
unfolds. As I say this is one address
among many, and it happened thirty years ago, but the psychology behind it is
the same thing. Notice in the next
paragraph. “One may, I think, not
unfairly summarize the scholarly opinion on this question as follows: The
existence of Jesus is beyond question; but the information we have about him is
a composite of fact and legend which cannot be reliably untangled….” Stop there for a moment. Two sentences—what do you observe about
those two sentences. Look at them
carefully. What do you notice in the
sentence that begins “One may, I think?”
What does he do between “one may, I think” and the colon that follows
the word “follows:” What has he set you up for?
Watch
this, this is done time and time again, and it’s done so often that we don’t
even think about it. It is done
repeatedly on television; it’s done repeatedly in news articles. After you get to the colon and you absorb
the content of that sentence, what kind of opinion would you be left with if
you disagreed with him? An unscholarly
opinion. So immediately in the first
sentence he’s defined the scholarly opinion to be identical to the
non-Christian position. How often have
you heard that one in evolution debates and all the rest of it, “well the
scholarly opinion says”? By the way, we
can quote conservative scholars that don’t agree with this. But when you cite them, if you believe this,
what are those guys? They’re not
scholars. So here’s an interesting
thing that’s gone on in the discussion.
Right off the starting block, we’ve defined words.
The
trick is, whoever sets up the definition of the word wins the argument, because
going into the starting gate we’ve already eliminated the Christian position
from scholarly consideration. You can’t
be a scholar and believe the Christian position, after you reach the colon in
this sentence. He’s put up a
filter. See what he’s done, he’s put up
a filter that has filtered out you and me and any Bible-believing person. I know plenty of New Testament scholars, I
know a guy that’s got his PhD from Harvard in theoretical math and he’s got his
PhD in New Testament studied from Cambridge University and he’s a
fundamentalist that believes in the inerrancy of Scripture. What about that, dual doctorate, one in
theoretical math, one in New Testament, doesn’t that make him a scholar? No!
It’s not the degrees you have, it’s the content of your opinion that
defines whether you’re a scholar or not.
Do you see? So watch this; this
goes on and on and on. He’s saying let
me summarize the scholarly opinion, so obviously anything that follows isn’t
scholarly. Right away you’ve got a
filter that he built in right off the starting block, right from the very
start, #1
Let’s
go further. “… but the information we
have about him is a composite of fact and legend which cannot be reliably
untangled.” At least he said it’s
opinion, a scholarly opinion, but what I want to draw your attention to is what
is the main verb in that clause? The
information we have about Him perhaps? Or, the information about Him might
possibly be? Do you see any qualification? No. An indicative verb is used to convey certainty. Language has moods in it. In the Greek language these verbs form were
actually morphologically different, so when you read the Greek you can tell
whether you’re reading an indicative verb, an imperative mood or a subjunctive
mood, etc. What are those moods? Degrees of certainty. An indicative verb states a fact. A subjunctive verb would be in English,
“that could be.” If you say that in
conversation what kind of certainty is that? How does that differ from “that is
what I say,” versus “I could have said that, I don’t remember.” Certain politicians are good at using the
subjunctive mood from time to time. The
subjunctive mood and the indicative mood are ways God has created in the
language so that every one of us can communicate certainty or uncertainty or
degrees of certainty to each other. That’s why the language has that
structure. All language has that
structure in some form or another.
So
by using an indicative verb here he has connoted, just the way the sentence is
structured, certainty, absolutely certain.
So after we’ve been hit with a filter about scholars, now we’re hit with
the second thing, (#2) that it “is a composite of fact and legend which cannot
be reliably untangled.” See how it
builds on itself? First any Bible
believer is filtered out of the discussion; the next thing that happens is now
we’ve created in concrete the unbelieving statement.
Let’s
read further: “These passages from
Josephus (Antiquities, VIII. 3; XX.9) and the passage from Tacitus contain the
only information we have about the existence of Christ from non-Christian
sources in the first century.” Hold the
place and turn to page 25 in the notes. We went through this; when I was
talking about the virgin birth claim, what did we do? We went to some non-Christian sources and what were those
non-Christian sources? They were Jewish
non-Christian sources. Remember the
Jewish sources that blamed Mary for being a fornicator and called Jesus a
bastard. Notice on page 25, I quote,
right from the Mishnah what appears
to be a reference to Jesus Christ.
“Joseph
Klausner, a Jewish scholar, writes of this Mishnaic section: ‘That Jesus is
here referred to seems to be beyond all doubt.’ Klausner notes that throughout the Jewish Talmud, including its
Michnaic section, Jesus is known as ‘Yeshu ben Pandera’ (Jesus son of Pandera),
a title which may refer to Mary’s allegedly paramour or to the virgin-birth
claim itself (virgin in Greek is parthenos). Another Talmudic scholar, Herbert Danby,
summarizes the entire Talmudic reference to the virgin birth claim.” What have we just said on page 25 about a
source material, non-Christian source material about Jesus? Jewish.
Turn
back to Stroll’s argument on page 51, look at his statement. He quotes Josephus and Tacitus, and what
does he says, it “contains the only information we have about the existence of
Christ.” So what’s my third observation
(#3) about professor Stroll’s address?
He’s got a factual error, that is a false statement; that is not true
that Josephus and Tacitus are the only information that we have about Jesus
from non-Christian forces.
Look
what happened here in four sentences.
Do you see why college kids can get screwed up? They come out of high school, and I’m not
knocking the high schools, many of them are good, but there are so many other
things competing to hard courses. So we
take basket weaving 101 and a few other things, then we always have to take the
sociological courses, go through all the hoopla stuff and we come out of high
school kind of half mature in thinking.
First thing, we get plugged into a freshman lecture hall somewhere where
a professional sits, a guy with his doctorate who has years under his belt, who
is Mr. Slick, and he just hoses down everybody in the lecture hall, lecture
after lecture, hosing them down. The
kids have never been thought to think critically, never been cued to the
signals that are going on, never taken apart and parsed a guy’s lecture like
we’re doing, to learn how to take the truth and filter it. Then they walk out, I don’t know whether I
really believe the Bible any more, Dr. So and So said and he has a PhD. Then here we go, shipwrecks of the faith
all over the place. It’s especially
disastrous when a kid goes to a Christian college and gets this liberal stuff
for twice the cost he could get it for in a secular college.
We
have three things in this set of things to watch for. We see a filter being put
on, the first step; we see an indicative sentence of certainty where there
can’t be certainty. Now we see a
falsity. Let’s read further. “It is clear that neither writer could have
been an eyewitness to the events he describes….” I’m not so sure Josephus couldn’t have, maybe he was too
young. “The Gospels, of course, purport
to contain descriptions of the life and activities of Christ, from the time of
his nativity, through his baptism, crucifixion and resurrection. Until the attention of historical
scholarship was directed to these documents early in the nineteenth century, it
was commonly assumed that they contained eyewitness supports of the events
described….”
Number
four (#4) by way of observation. What slick one has he just pulled right
there? There’s a lot folded into that
statement, let me unpack it. “Until,”
(quote) watch it, underline that section, “attention of historical
scholarship,” that’s an interesting statement.
Apparently there were no scholars before the 19th century.
Thomas Aquinas wasn’t a scholar, Calvin wasn’t a scholar, he was only 21 when
he wrote The Institution of the Christian
Religion that formed the heart of Protestant religion for centuries
afterwards, but he’s not a scholar though.
Excuse me! “…until the attention
of historical scholarship was directed to these documents,” let me explain what
he’s really meaning. By the term
“historical scholarship” Dr. Stroll is talking about higher criticism. This is a term we ought to know, “higher
criticism.” We also ought to note
something else called “lower criticism.”
I want to define those two terms.
Lower
criticism we don’t have to bother with right now. Lower criticism is dealing with the source material in the
manuscripts. Some uncial manuscripts
read this way in John 8:58 and other manuscripts read another way in John
8:58. The greatest and biggest example
of lower criticism is the last chapter of the Gospel of Mark is a controversy,
that’s not in some manuscripts, sometimes it is. So there’s an example of lower criticism. Lower criticism deals with the textual
materials that are used in Bible translation.
Lower criticism has presuppositions to it, that’s why today we have this
big argument going on about the King James text versus the non-King James text,
that’s a lower criticism question.
Higher
criticism seeks to understand how the Bible was created in history. In other words, higher criticism opens the
question of—when Luke sat down to write the Gospel of Luke where did he get his
material? Was it a direct vision, was
it interviews? We happen to think
actually that Dr. Luke, who was a physician, interviewed a lot of people. In fact, he’s the only guy in all the Gospel
writers who reports how Mary felt about her pregnancy in great depth. So it’s quite clear that he went back to
Mary and talked to her. As a doctor he
was interested in those kinds of details.
Matthew wasn’t, he was a tax collector.
So in Luke’s Gospel you get more of a flavor of what was going on during
the pregnancy. Matthew is more
concerned with the bureaucratic and legalistic implications in the virgin
birth, but not how Mary felt. I believe
that’s why God took four different men to write four different Gospels; He
gives a perspective on the person of Jesus Christ. That’s a harmless kind of higher criticism. But that kind of higher criticism always
existed, there were debates during the canonicity period when the Church was
trying to decide what books should be in the canon. They engaged in an early form of higher criticism when they were
trying to decide that question. Did an
apostle write this particular book or didn’t he?
What
this guy means by historical scholarship in the early 19th century
is higher criticism that sought to explain the Scriptures in terms of humanism,
as a humanistic creation of man. Higher
criticism sought a human explanation for all documents, Plato, Aristotle,
everybody else, and they placed the Scripture along with everything else. So the uniqueness of the Scripture, in spite
of its own self-claim that it is the Word of God, that it’s an inspired text,
that’s tossed aside, and the Scripture is arbitrarily at step one in the
discussion classed as a piece of humanly generated literature and given that
fact, now how did it happen? That’s where we get stuff like Moses couldn’t have
written the Pentateuch, John couldn’t have written the Gospel, all kinds of
reasons. We don’t know very much, but we know out of the millions of people at
least John the apostle could not have written the Gospel of John. We can’t be certain about history, but that
we can be certain of. That’s the
agenda that started floating around in the 19th century.
Now
do you see what he’s done here? With
that sentence “until the attention of historical scholarship” it’s like nobody
ever raised the questions before.
Bologna! What he’s talking about
is when humanism and secularism took over all control of Biblical studies, then
the opinion changed about the eyewitness business. Put yourself in the position of a naïve college student, first
time out, he reads “until the attention of historical scholarship,” and gee,
there wasn’t any historical scholarship and you know, gee, when all these
historical scholars got together in the 19th century, everybody else
is naïve. I guess we have to go along
with scholars because everybody until them assumed there were eyewitnesses, and
they came along and told us there wasn’t, so I guess there isn’t. Totally oblivious to the fact the agenda is
at work… the agenda is at work, it’s manifesting itself intellectually, maybe
not like the myths of the 8th, 10th, 15th
centuries BC but there it is again. The
contention is that there is not a Creator that’s revealing Himself in human
language to man, and if that’s so, then the documents which are in human
language can’t be of God, right? Logic follows. But the logic only follows if you agree to the starting point,
and the starting point is that there’s not a God who speaks. Given that premise, then yes, go ahead,
treat the Bible like it came out of just man’s mouth.
Be
alert to the presuppositional baggage that’s being imported. When these words come in, think of a Trojan
horse coming inside the walls of Troy, and at night the soldiers come out. Think of your mind as like the city of Troy,
and when you get statements like this, the Trojan horse has come into your
city, and what does Paul say in 2 Cor. 10:5, “Casting down every vain
imagination and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of
Christ.” The young student faced with
this kind of stuff for the first time usually is not prepared to take it, so
all the Trojan horses come through. Every time a sentence is made like this
there’s no critical filter operating in the mind, everything is sort of taken
in, in wonderment, trust in the faculty that they know what they’re saying, and
then boom, all this explodes inside their hearts and tears up their faith,
because it hasn’t been properly filtered.
Let’s
continue with professor Stroll, “It is extremely unlikely that the writers of
the documents we now possess would have been eye witnesses to the activities of
Jesus….” How does he qualify the
certainty in that sentence? He puts a
strong adverb in there, “extremely unlikely,” not just unlikely, but it’s
“extremely unlikely.” We would like to
ask Dr. Stroll why do you say it’s extremely unlikely? What’s your statistic, what’s your
probability distribution? Where’d you
get that statistic from, “extremely unlikely?”
That’s number five, (#5) we’re counting the number of Trojan horses in
this statement. The only thing that he can use to justify “extremely unlikely”
is his philosophic presuppositions, but to state the philosophic
presuppositions over and over is just to state it over and over. It’s not a proof of anything, it’s just a
working out of his worldview, and if he’s going to do that, we can do the same
thing. Worldviews sin collision!
Let’s
look at the next sentence: “Even if there were reason to believe some of the
material to express eye witness accounts of Jesus’ life, the accretion of
legend, the description of miracles performed by Jesus, which exist in these
writings [sic] make it difficult, if not impossible, to extract from them any
reliable historical testimony about the events described….” Let’s look first at
the sentence that begins “Even if there were reason to believe,” does anyone
smell a rat in that one? “Even if there
were reason to believe,” just think about that one. That’s the same kind of thinking that I warned you about when I
said one of the things that offended the Pharisees about Jesus was His
self-authenticating authority. Jesus
didn’t look for anybody to prove anything.
What He said was by definition true.
What
event in the Old Testament did we link to the doctrine of revelation,
inspiration? Mount Sinai. Here’s where this framework will help you
start circulating. Imagine yourself in
your mind’s eye at the foot of Mount Sinai.
Moses is up on the mountain, smoke and fire all over the place, and all
of a sudden you hear these Hebrew words come rolling down this vast valley with
a million other people sitting there.
And you hear the very words of God in the Hebrew language. “I am the God who brought you out of Egypt,”
like there was a fantastic PA system that you couldn’t believe. Put yourself in that position and look how
ridiculous it looks to say hey God, can You give me some reasons to believe
what You’re saying? How stupid and
arrogant that looks, and nobody who heard God’s Word in that thing would have
said that. Even the non-Christians
would have fallen over when God spoke, because implicitly in our hearts the way
God created us we know our Maker’s voice.
There’s no discussion, there’s no need for a reason.
That’s
just another gimmick, that here man is, and we’re going create a proof system,
and we’ve got all our human logic here, our logic machine at work, and God’s got
to fit into our logic machine. God’s
got to fit our criteria, we set the criteria of truth and we make God fit it.
That’s arrogance, that’s Eve back in the garden. What did she do? She took
the Word of God, “thou shalt die the day you eat thereof,” and over here we
have Mr. Satan who says the day that you eat thereof you are not going to
die. So Eve puts them both on the same
platform, treating Satan, the creature, just like she treats God, the Creator,
erases the Creator/creature distinction and then thinks she’s going to have a
test to determine the truth, she’s got to have a reason to believe. So you see we’re right back to the same
thing.
So
this statement, number six, (#6) “even if there were reason to believe,” is
just another popping up out of his self-consciousness (or unconsciousness)
here, of his philosophy of life, that there has to be an autonomously based and
constructed set of proofs to which God has to adhere, when in matter of fact
God is the one who’s existence is the presupposition of proving anything,
because were He not existing we wouldn’t have any enduring truth to prove.
Let’s
continue. I’m sure that in the next part of that statement you spotted one of
the most obvious portions of his statement, “the description of miracles performed
by Jesus … make it difficult, if not impossible, to extract from them any
reliable historical testimony about the events described.” What does that flagrantly show? His anti-supernaturalism. The guy doesn’t accept miracles. The whole
Bible from beginning to end is talking about the interfering God. What have we
said about the framework here, what kind of a kingdom? A disruptive kingdom. God constantly disrupts, especially fallen
creation. In His grace He disrupts us,
calling us to Himself so we don’t wind up in hell. It’s all a miracle. But a
miracle? I mean, good night, we can’t believe in miracles. Why can’t we believe in miracles? The answer usually is this: You can’t believe in miracles because
they’re disruptions; if you allow any disruption in natural law, you destroy
the certainty of knowledge, because you make it chance driven, chaotic. That’s
the argument you always get into.
The
reason for the hatred of miracles is that miracles violate the certainty of
human knowledge, because our minds want to have it all packed and packaged, and
a miracle is an interruption to the package. So what’s our answer? Who stands behind the miracle that’s doing
the disrupting? Is God a chaotic God or
is God an immutable God? Is God a
faithful God, a God who assures us in the New Testament that He cannot lie,
that He cannot, even though He’s
omnipotent He cannot violate His character. That Creator God’s character is the
source for the miracle. So a miracle
[can’t understand word] the certainty of knowledge because the certainty of
knowledge is His omniscience. The
certainty wasn’t located down here, it’s located up here. So miracles are only a threat to knowledge
if you’ve made the human the source of the certainty. Yes, miracles do threaten that kind of knowledge. Yes it is awe inspiring to think that the
God of the Scriptures told a man to slit his son’s throat, but the point still
remains that God, who stands behind those commands, has a character made up of
His attributes, a character that is the source of our stability and our
basis. Our stability from day to day
doesn’t hinge on how we feel, it doesn’t hinge on how we think. [blank spot]
…
because God sustains us. He never gets tired, He never runs out of energy, His
plan is never thwarted and every molecule obeys His sovereign will. That’s the kind of certainty we have. So a miracle here and there doesn’t phase us
in the least. It’s just another part of
the plan of God. But a miracle indeed
is scary to one who comes at this whole thing from an unbelieving perspective.
So Stroll is bothered by this.
Finally,
“It seems to me likely that during this [NT] period a prophet arose….; but an
accretion of the legends grew up about this figure, was incorporated into the
Gospels by various devotees of the movement, was rapidly spread throughout the
Mediterranean world by the ministry of St. Paul,” it’s nice that he recognizes
he was a saint, “and that because this is so, it is impossible to separate
these legendary elements in the purported descriptions of Jesus from those
which in fact were true of Him.”
What
do you notice about that right from the start, item number eight in our
critique? The first subject and verb,
“It seems to me likely,” well that’s fine, but that’s auto biographical, I may
or may not be interested in what seems to be likely to you Dr. Stroll. All he’s doing in that last sentence is
simply reiterating what he said seven times before, I am an unbeliever, I have
located certainty in the human intellect, miracles are a threat to my
worldview, and that’s why I can’t stand miracles, and that’s why I cannot allow
the Scriptures to speak for themselves, but they must be under the control and
suppression of the human intellect through scholarship that began in the 19th
century under higher criticism. So all
we have heard in this lecture from start to finish is an articulation of the
non-Christian world view.
When
we started this series I said watch for a tactic, and we have to learn to use
it ourselves, what I call the tactic of strategic envelopment. By that I mean you take an event, like the
coming of the King of Kings, the Lord Jesus Christ in history, and you pack all
those facts about Jesus Christ, the claim of His virgin birth, the claim of His
life, His sermon material, reaction of people to Him, that whole package that
we call the New Testament, and you envelope that package in your
worldview. That’s what Dr. Stroll has
done. He’s taken the New Testament and
enveloped it in a worldview so he explains it from his perspective.
But
this is a two-edged sword. We can envelop it in the worldview of the Scriptures
themselves. We allow the Scriptures to explain the Scriptures. And we take our position in the worldview
that there’s a Creator and a creature distinction; that has all kinds of
intellectual implications. We
understand there was a historic fall with all kinds of intellectual
implications to that. And we understand
that the God of creation spoke publicly in history from a mountain at Sinai at
one point in history, in the Hebrew language such that if you had a tape
recorder you would have recorded His voice.
Therefore God does not have a problem revealing Himself in human
language. So when Jesus Christ walks the face of the earth and makes the
God-claim that He is God and man in the hypostatic union, He can speak and I
understand that to be the very words of God that come out of His human mouth; I
don’t have a problem with that. And if
He wants to turn stones into bread, He can do that; I don’t have a problem with
that. That doesn’t mean that all rocks
are going to fall apart because Jesus took one and turned it into bread. Rocks are going to stay rocks. That one didn’t because that wasn’t God’s
plan for that one. So where’s my trust?
My trust is in the character of God.
Let’s
go on, we want to finish up this section so we can get on to the doctrine next
week. On the bottom of page 52 are some
sentences I want to draw your attention to.
“The New Testament picture of Jesus is often called the ‘kerygmatic Christ’
as mentioned above. It contrasts with
the ‘real’ historic Jesus. Figure 2
shows how this pagan sort of thinking contrasts with Biblical thinking on the
issue. Some of the most extreme critics
hold to position ‘A’ in which the kerygmatic Christ has no connection
whatsoever with the historic Jesus.”
The next sentence, if you would underline it, there’s an important point
I’m making here. “In their world view,” i.e. in the pagan unbelieving world
view, “man experiences religious emotions and responds in his imagination by
generating religious images.” That’s
the dynamic for the origin of the New Testament. People had religious experiences so they wrote about it. Shirley
MacLain had religious experiences and she wrote about it, any number of people had
religious experiences and they wrote about it.
So there’s no difference in the Gospel of John and what Shirley MacLain
wrote, because it’s all coming out of the human intellect?
You
can sit here and endlessly try to defend this little point of the Bible and
that little point of the Bible, and you’ll be sitting there a thousand proofs
later still defending yourself if you don’t come to grips with the fact that
the basic agenda denies the Creator/creature distinction and the self-revealing
God. That’s the target, not some
obscure little detail somewhere.
Continuing,
“No communication exists between a Creator and a creature because at bottom all
is one impersonal cosmos, a grand Continuity of Being. New Testament writers, in this view,” now
watch this, “merely created the kerygmatic Christ out of their religious
imaginations. Christ, in this view,” I
got this from an apologist and I love this statement. “Christ, in this view, is
like a chameleon that takes on the qualities of the observer’s theology.” A chameleon blends into the environment, so
there can be 1008 different Jesuses, all of whom reflect the imagination of
their authors. That’s why you have to
have a creed and you can’t go around this world saying well I believe in Jesus. What Jesus?
Tell me about this Jesus, is this Jesus the Jesus of the New Testament
Scripture, or is this the Jesus of someone’s imagination. Maybe it’s William Miller’s imagination.
Maybe it’s John Smith’s imagination.
Maybe it’s Mary Baker Patterson Glover Eddy’s imagination. Or is this the New Testament Jesus that
we’re talking about. Always hone in,
which Jesus?
On
page 53 I’m trying to summarize this and I have a quote there I’d like to look
at. Before we do that turn to John
12. We’re trying to get at the bottom
of all this criticism against Jesus, and I’ve said several times tonight that
the problem is this agenda of trying to make the world safe for sinners. We do that by cutting off revelation from a
holy righteous God. In John 12:37 we
have a portrayal of the unmasking of what was going on. Here is John the apostle’s description,
guided by the Holy Spirit, of what we’ve been talking about with Dr. Stroll
tonight, same thing. So watch, from
verse 37-41. “But though He had
performed so many signs before them, yet they were not believing in Him.” Look at that; was Jesus inefficient in His
revelation? Did He not have the right
church growth program? Did He not buy
the right religious franchise so He could set something in motion? Something is failing. Here’s the God-man, the hypostatic union,
performing many signs and they didn’t believe in Him. If He lived today people would say gee, you’ve got to change your
approach here. The Bible says no-no,
Jesus doesn’t have to change His approach, His approach did exactly what it was
supposed to do. Watch the next verse.
Verse
38, “that the word,” purpose clause, see, they weren’t believing in Him,
purpose clause, “that the word of Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled which
he spoke, ‘Lord, who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the
Lord been revealed?” “The arm of the
Lord” is an Old Testament Messianic term. [39]“For this cause they could not
believe, for Isaiah said again, [40] He has blinded their eyes, and He hardened
their heart; lest they see with their eyes, and perceive with their heart, and
be converted, and I heal them. [41] These things Isaiah said, because he saw
His glory, and he spoke of Him.”
Remember
Isaiah, the time of the fall of the kingdom. What was a prophet in the Old
Testament? He was a prosecutor. Isaiah brought prosecution against the
nation of Israel for their disbelief in the Old Testament Word of God. And part of the judgment that Isaiah
announced was that the more of the Word of God that you hear, if you reject,
the more of the Word of God you hear the more you’re going to reject. So ironically preaching the gospel doesn’t
just soften hearts; preaching the gospel itself can be the process of hardening
hearts. So lack of belief is not a sign
of impotence in the gospel message.
Lack of belief in the gospel message may be a sign of the hardening
ministry of the Word of God, a damning ministry of the Word of God, and it’s an
awesome thing to think about. Far from saying Jesus was inefficient, far from
saying the gospel just doesn’t get through so we’ve got to modify it, we’ve got
to adapt to the audience kind of thing, far from that lack of belief can be a
sign of damnation. The Word of God accomplishes both things, it hardens and it
softens.
So
Jesus, the revelation through the person of Jesus Christ did not fail, it did
accomplish the purpose. The purpose
clause in verse 38 is “that the word of Isaiah might be fulfilled.” It was doing work, just not the work that
people would like to have seen done.
Back
to page 54 in the notes. “Modern
critics have followed a similar path.
Having turned from the pieces of Biblical truth mixed into Western
civilization, they deny the possibility of any verbal revelation.” Look at this quote coming up, this is a
ripper. I sought for years to get a
quote this clear. This is by Paul
Tillich, who was probably one of America’s most famous theologians in the 20th
century. I heard him when I was at MIT,
he used to come down from Harvard and give lectures. “One of the most famous theologians of the twentieth century, Dr.
Paul Tillich, wrote,” neo-orthodox person, not orthodox; I said neo-orthodox
meaning modernist. Watch this quote
because he lets it all out of the bag here.
If you’ve doubted what I’ve said tonight, listen to the quote because he
just verifies everything I’ve told you in the last sixty minutes.
“‘There
are no revealed doctrines, but there are revelatory events and situations which
can be described in doctrinal terms…. The ‘Word of God’ contains neither
revealed commandments nor revealed doctrines.’” Look at that sentence twice.
“The ‘Word of God’ contains neither revealed commandments nor revealed
doctrines.’” Does that explain to you why you can go to your First Liberal
Church that your great-grandfather went to, that used to preach the gospel 50
years ago, and you don’t hear the gospel any more. Do you know why? Because
the people in the pulpit have been trained under guys like Tillich. So they don’t even believe that there’s any
communication from the Word of God. All
the Bible is is a compilation of human authors who had religious
experiences. Like Shirley MacLain did,
she could have written revelation 22 for all they care, no difference.
Conclusion,
diagram on page 55, here’s the process. We had a similar diagram back when we
studied the hypostatic union and the virgin birth and we said the doctrine of
God, man and nature was fouled up and if it was fouled up there was a revulsion
against the claim of the virgin birth.
Now we see a similar situation, except now the issue isn’t the doctrine
of God, man and nature, it’s much more of a narrow area, the idea of
revelation. The pagan world view hits
the King’s historic appearance, looks at it, sees it, denies it can be any revelation
from God and rejects it and goes off in a wild search for the historical
Jesus. “Will the real Jesus please
stand up” sort of thing. Whereas the
Biblical worldview, somebody who’s submitted himself to Scripture, who has a
regenerate heart, who’s taught by the Spirit, looks at the Kings’ historic
appearance and accepts it, because he recognizes the voice of his maker. He’s not in rebellion against that voice, so
he has no problem accepting the New Testament text at prima fascia, that it is what it claims to be.
Next
week we’re going to begin three doctrines, the doctrine of kenosis, the
doctrine of impeccability, and the doctrine of infallibility. Those are the doctrines associated with the
life of the King, just like the doctrine of the hypostatic union was associated
with the virgin birth, now we’re going to look at this doctrine of
kenosis. If you wonder what kenosis
means, it means empty, and it comes from that very, very familiar passage we
all know, Phil. 2:5. We’re going to
talk about that and I think we’ll see some pretty amazing things that should be
encouraging to us in our life.
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Question
asked: Clough replies: This is a good
question that’s been brought up, and that is that looking at TV programs like
the learning channel, etc. we hear a lot of the work being done about the Dead
Sea Scrolls, and the cult of the Essenes, and the people that lived in the
cliffs there where the Dead Sea Scrolls are found. Is this whole effort to uncover these people really an attempt to
undermine the gospel? I don’t think
it’s consciously intended to do that. I
think the scholars that work in those areas are just curious. The thing that they don’t do is what we
found the biologists, the geologists and the astrophysicists don’t do, they go
out into the universe and they see data, they’ve uncovered data, and they want
to interpret the data in some sort of frame of reference, but their
presupposition is that there’s no plan out there prior to man interpreting the
data.
So
if there’s a history, for example, we want to see the history of man. We’re curious, you know, we want to see what
happened in history. What they think
about in trying to get at this history is that man has to start with
uninterpreted raw data and build up a history from that raw data. Whereas we, Biblical-believing people need
to think in terms of the fact that yes, we have to go out and dig too,
archeology helps us too, but we don’t say that history doesn’t exist until man
thinks it up. We say that history
existed for all eternity in the mind of God and that there was a sovereign plan
all the time to administer the plan. So
God has authored history, history is going exactly the way He wants it to go, and
that all these pieces fit together, and the Bible is a key, if you just let it,
is a key to interpreting this stuff.
In
particular the Dead Sea Scrolls have two ramifications. What at first they found in the Dead Sea
Scrolls and you don’t hear much about it any more, is they found pieces of
Isaiah and Daniel that were written, particularly Daniel, that was written and
dated, their method of dating is a style of the letters, and paleography, so
they found shreds of the book of Daniel on these Dead Sea Scrolls that predated
when the critics thought Daniel was written.
What is it about the book of Daniel that forces every unbeliever to late
date it? It’s filled with
prophecy. You can’t have Daniel written
early because the moment you allow Daniel to be written early you’re face to
face with prophecy. So since Daniel
prophesied of Medo-Persia, of Greece, they’ve got to get the date of Daniel
shoved forward in history so that it becomes a retrospective fake
prophecy. The problem came that the
Dead Sea Scrolls were dating prior to the last date of Daniel. So this created
consternation, and it’s interesting that in all the discussion you hear about
the Dead Sea Scrolls, that discussion has been relegated to some journals that
aren’t talked about too much. Nobody wants to talk about that hot potato. So again we have the filter operating. The
issues that you hear about are issues that are either kind of neutral-ish,
although there is no real neutralism, but kind of neutral-ish, or potentially
hostile to the gospel, oh, we’ve got to look at that one! But when it comes to archeological details
that confirm the Scripture, then we don’t want to deal with that.
So
the big issue with the Dead Sea Scrolls is what was this community that
formulated these things? These people, there was a whole religious community
that existed out in that area and the fascinating thing from a conservative
point of view is the connection between John the Baptist and this Essene group,
because they spoke in terms of light and darkness, they spoke in terms of the
sons of light and darkness, they had a screwed up view of the Messiah, I think
they had multiple Messiahs, but it was clear from what we’ve seen so far is
that they were thinking that the time of Messiah is close, the time of the end
is near, and interestingly they were only ten miles away from John the
Baptist’s ministry. So the question is,
was there interaction between them, did John go out there and work with
them. Did they influence John in a
human sense of his vocabulary, for example? Did John not borrow, I won’t use
the word borrow, but did he, from a human point of view did God use the Essenes
to give him some vocabulary in terms of expression, which he then had corrected
through the Holy Spirit because John’s theology is not Essene theology
So
there are a lot of questions about what this group was. It’s just that these treasures that they
have from our conservative perspective, is the wonderful preservation of
Scripture and the textual material that comes out of the Dead Sea Scrolls is
just tremendously exciting. It’s
exciting for another reason, the text from Isaiah, in face I quote the Dead Sea
Scrolls when we did the post-exilic period and in the notes I had a text from
the Masoretic text, I had a text from the Palestinian text type, the Dead Sea
Scrolls, and I showed you there. That’s
what I was using, that was taken from a fragment of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and
when you compare the text of the Dead Sea Scrolls with the Masoretic text,
which is 1000 AD, and people would say oh well, you Christians only got a
Hebrew text from 1000 AD, anything could have happened before 1000 AD. You can’t trust that text. Well, isn’t it interesting that when you dig
up the Dead Sea Scrolls, 200 BC, we see essentially the same text. So what does that tell you about our confidence
in the text?
So
our interest in the Dead Sea Scrolls is primarily in terms of lower criticism,
manuscript detail. We’re incidentally
in what the Essenes did, how they worshiped, what they thought, but only as
background to the New Testament.
Question
asked: Clough replies: It’s healthy to
look at those kinds of programs and ask yourself what is the agenda going
on. I think all of us as Christians
can’t just sit here and passively take in anything that comes out of the
tube. We can’t do that, we’ve got to
filter it, and that’s a good approach.
Question
asked: Clough replies: I don’t know
whether our library has any of the books, but there are a number of very good
conservative, what you call New Testament introductions, probably CBD has them,
look for the title New Testament introductions. That’s higher criticism from a conservative perspective;
hopefully, they sell conservative books in there. There’s one by Guthrie, offhand I can’t think of some of the
names of the authors. I’m sure since I
studied them there are some New Testament introductions. There are also some conservative treatments
of the Dead Sea Scrolls, but frankly, I recommend if you’re interested in the
Dead Sea Scrolls, get a translation of them, because most translations of the
Dead Sea Scrolls will have footnotes the cross reference Scripture texts. My point here is, in all this discussion the
closer you can personally get to the primary material, so it’s not filtered
through what professor So and So says, just read it for yourself. We’re not
stupid.
[same
person says something] I would venture that Barnes & Noble would have a
translation of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
[something else said] Yes, I’ve heard that, I haven’t seen it, but he’s
right, there’s a CD rom that’s going to come out with a text on it. And that’s what you want, you don’t want 500
volumes of commentary on it, you just want to read it for yourself. Don’t feel intimidated. You can go ahead and pick up the Dead Sea
Scrolls, and a lot of it is junk, this stuff about the light and the darkness,
some of it’s all about their religious community, this and that, it’s like
reading something out of the hippies of the 60’s, the flower children in
Colorado somewhere, but apart from that, you’ve got text from Maccabees, you’ve
got texts of Daniel, you’ve got texts of Isaiah, you’ve got passages from
Isaiah being commented on, and the value of that is it tells you how first
century people were reading the Old Testament.
It’s very interesting.
One
of the things that come out of this, just from our perspective, is that those
people were clearly reading the Old Testament prophesies of the kingdom as a
literal, physical kingdom on earth.
They weren’t talking about some spiritual heaven somewhere like the
amillennialists. They weren’t talking
that way, so that means that when John the Baptist came walking into that era
of Judaism, and Jesus too for that matter, when Jesus and John were around
saying the Kingdom of God is coming, the Kingdom of God is coming, our point in
our debates over eschatology is how would the guy in the street have understood
Jesus when Jesus said “the Kingdom of God is coming”? If you read the Dead Sea Scrolls, that is what the Jews were
thinking. So it helps understanding
what the guy in the street was thinking about so that when you read the New
Testament text there’s no problem interpreting it. If Jesus didn’t mean what they meant, then He should have
qualified it. But Jesus doesn’t qualify
it, so that means that Jesus went along with the popular impression of what the
Kingdom was.
Those
are the tools; those are the benefits of learning about these people. But
frankly I wouldn’t spend a lot of time on that if you haven’t first spent a lot
of time just in the Bible itself. Don’t
let this become a deflection from your study.
Question
asked: Clough replies: All it would
take would be a ten year error, and we don’t have that refinement, they can’t
tell plus or minus ten. So that’s
right, that’s a good observation, that a lot of these things are date
contingent and that’s my point about so many things about Egypt and Egyptian
history, we really don’t control ancient history well enough to integrate with
Scripture. I wish we did, because I’m
sure that the Word of God and history had ramifications and had all kinds of
implications. I think we would see
links, I think we would be able to identify clearly who that Queen of Sheba
was, I think we could clarify the plagues on Egypt, when they happened. All that
was public, it wasn’t symbolism, that wasn’t done in a corner; that was all
there. So there’s got to be historical
stuff out there, it’s just that Satan is the god of this world, and he just
blinded people, and he literally has screwed up history, the accounts of
history.
If
we’re sitting here in 1999 and we have scholars in this country that already
denying that the genocide against Jews in 1943 didn’t happen, we’re only fifty
years removed from that and we’re already denying it. So come pal, if we’re thousands of years removed from Jesus,
you’d better believe we’ve got history screwed up.
Next
week we’re going to get into what doctrines fall out of this, and these
doctrines are going to be hinged on the hypostatic union, that’s why we had the
hypostatic union first, and they sound all hairy and complicated, and they are
because God’s incomprehensible, but there’s some powerful truths here that
apply to Christ’s priesthood, to the filling of the Holy Spirit today, etc. So
there are a lot of practical implications in this.
See
you next week.